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SR71Goku
17-04-02, 02:15am
Well, since Wraith decided to close the old one, lets just start new one. Pass the coffee and start posting.

gnugy
17-04-02, 04:18am
I don't know, a new thread will definetly take some breaking in before it feels like the old one.

The old thread was, well, comfortable.

loupgarou21
17-04-02, 04:49am
sorry goku, this is going to be my only post here, at least for the moment. I just don;t feel like attempting another version of "this poll" yet.

maybe later I'll feel different

SR71Goku
17-04-02, 05:17am
well, if this dies, at least I will have tried...

Slow Gherkin
17-04-02, 06:48am
good luck though man

Contempt
17-04-02, 06:15pm
Grrr I have so far made 2 posts in this thread and both of them have been deleted. Not happy :(

loupgarou21
17-04-02, 10:44pm
I'm sorry, the one you just posted is still there

SR71Goku
17-04-02, 11:18pm
Really?

Damnit, Wraith or one of the admins is being a dick and screwing around with us.

Contempt
17-04-02, 11:24pm
So it would appear...

I was just giving yopu crap about your thread being closed anyway :D

loupgarou21
18-04-02, 12:37am
I think wraith is just tired of all the crap being said about the thread being closed... give us hell quimby!

!2SX!
18-04-02, 01:07am
ahhaah

have you seen this guy Xpert? he's taken on the RTFM flash.. WITHOUT FORUM NINJA CONSENT!!!!!!!!!

omg gomgomg

SR71Goku
18-04-02, 02:44am
I just told him to get rid of it. If he doesn't, he will not be back.

!2SX!
18-04-02, 02:49am
thats not a reason to ban someone.. calm down

gnugy
18-04-02, 06:05am
Originally Posted by Homicidal Bovine
Grrr I have so far made 2 posts in this thread and both of them have been deleted. Not happy

Well don't leave us wondering, give us the gist of it...

Man, it's getting hotter outside, it was a steamy 30 degrees celicus today. This means you'll be seeing less and less the old gnuguy (ahhh Paradox) as I will be spending more and more time outside.

Slow Gherkin
18-04-02, 06:40am
1988 take me back to 1987

Slow Gherkin
18-04-02, 06:41am
Ozma, great band

SR71Goku
18-04-02, 09:14am
Originally posted by !2SX!
thats not a reason to ban someone.. calm down

That didn't mean I was going to necessarily ban him....

Dork
18-04-02, 10:13am
Hmmmm.....new thread, huh?

I guess I could live with that:cool:

!2SX!
18-04-02, 12:40pm
then what?

gnugy
18-04-02, 01:02pm
Got accepted to University Yesterday.

Im going to Carleton University for "Bachelor of Computer Science First Year Software Engineering."

Why am I telling you this? Because Im proud of my acomplishments.

SR71Goku
18-04-02, 01:08pm
I'm not really sure....


btw, I'm taking a course on C++! w00t!!!!

Dork
18-04-02, 02:53pm
I say we find out where he lives and castrate him....with a rusty spoon.

*twitches*

Just the thought of that makes me cringe...

SR71Goku
18-04-02, 11:11pm
oww.....

Jarnuts
19-04-02, 01:10am
i didn't liek that mental picture man...please
dont do that again...

:D

SR71Goku
19-04-02, 01:50am
ewww!!!

!2SX!
19-04-02, 03:19am
hah wd gnugy, following in my footsteps :D

who are we castrating?

i made a C++ proggie the other day, it takes server logs and parses them into html files that are just the chatting, so you can see all the convos had on that map :D

eg: http://wolves.sgl.org.au/logchat/L0417031.html

i still gotta make some adjustments, like ppl with <'s or >'s in their name stuffs the parsing up (as you can see from the 8th line in the link above) but it shouldnt be too hard to fix.. also i wanna change the colour of the person if they're dead or if they team talk, and i wanna add in adminmod says and rcon say's etc

and the font is pretty crap too

also if it parses a few files at once, it'll create a link at the bottom to go to the next one..
im proud of it :D

SR71Goku
19-04-02, 05:35am
I can't wait for my class in C++ next year!!! It's great, mt school is planning on giving everyone their own laptop next year!!

Wraith,
19-04-02, 06:40am
Well at risk of hateful outporings i'll just chip in that i've got a place on the UMIST MSc computing conversion course for september.

the parsing sounds interesting 2SX, try passing it through and changing all < and > for their respective html entities, that shoudl solve the problem. Tricky in C i'd imagine. Multi or single pass?

d0dger
19-04-02, 09:45am
!2SX!, I ran across the same difficulty in VB...

The secret is to parse the player string backwards. That way you can count brackets and still wind up OK.

Here's the VB routine to slice a player string that appears like:

D0dger&lt;27&gt;&lt;128699&gt;&lt;TERRORIST&gt;

For i = Len(tmpStr) To 1 Step -1
tmpChar = Mid(tmpStr, i, 1)
If x < 4 And tmpChar = ">" Then x = x + 1
If x = 3 And tmpChar = "<" Then x = x + 1: i = i - 1: tmpChar = Mid(tmpStr, i, 1)
Select Case x
' 1st time, it's team
Case 1
If tmpChar <> ">" And tmpChar <> "<" Then
tmpTeam = tmpChar & tmpTeam
End If
' 2nd is WonID
Case 2
If tmpChar <> ">" And tmpChar <> "<" Then
tmpWID = tmpChar & tmpWID
End If
' 3rd is playerID
Case 3
If tmpChar <> ">" And tmpChar <> "<" Then
tmpPID = tmpChar & tmpPID
End If
' Everything else is the name
Case 4
tmpName = tmpChar & tmpName
End Select
Next i

Wraith,
19-04-02, 10:28am
Or if you want that in C it's all in the LogD code, thr eis a utility function to do exactly that, backwards as dodger says because the first field can contain &lt; and &gt; which is a stupid idea if you ask me, who chose a delimiter that can appear in the string?

Dork
19-04-02, 12:40pm
Originally posted by Jarnuts
i didn't liek that mental picture man...please
dont do that again...

:D Sorry, it's better than what my GF was suggesting though. I'm not even going to repeat what her idea was, it's too horrible to even whisper.

!2SX!
19-04-02, 07:30pm
yeah wraith,, (hotdamn love that double comma) the problem is i figure out their name and team and speech etc from the <'s and >'s in the string, its not a problem of the html picking up <'s and >'s, although it probably will be.

Multi or single pass?what do u mean by this?


yeah dodger i was thinking exactly that, but to make the process easier on me i didnt parse each character in the string, i just did substring and ansiPos (AnsiPos just searches within the string for antoher string and tells u where it found it) lookups to sort it out.. and i dont think/know if there's an ansistring function to search from the back of the string for some string. but i have an idea that i can just count the number of <'s and >'s and if there's more than should be, i can flag that string as dodgy and parse it differently somehow..

who chose a delimiter that can appear in the string?i know! i swear with cs1.4 its gonna have random logs like the change the order of wonid and nam and speech etc stupid valves.


hehe dork did she promptly do it to u?

Wraith,
19-04-02, 08:29pm
Multiple or single passes through the data. I'm assumign you've read it in a line or number of characters at a time, so you've either an array or a moving frame and open file. YOUcould be moving through the array/file multiple times doing one set of actions on each pass (easy and fairly safe) or you coudl be doing all the operations on each string in one go, single pass,

As i said LogD has a full implementation of this in basic C, Kndroc wrote it nd it hasn't failed on anyone yet. You start from the right and use a for loop startign from teh len-1 of the string and decrement couting &gt; cahracters in a switch statement IIRC. The code is on the site, linky in the sig as ever.

Or of course you can cheat and define a regular expression to match it all for you. Then you can do it in a single line

Regex.Pattern = """(.+)&lt;([0-9]+)&gt;&lt;([0-9]+)&gt;&lt;&gt;"" connected, address ""([0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}):([0-9]{1,5})"""

!2SX!
19-04-02, 09:39pm
oh i see, yeah i just do a single pass, each time i "discover" a new bit of information about the player, i chop that section off the string until the string is just what they actually said.

yeah that whole backwards thing.. tempting, but i'd have to re-write everythign again.

regex eh.. you seem a bit of a regex guru.. i should really learn it someday.. hmm /me digs up the adminmod manual.. its got a small section about it in there doesnt it?

damnit styupid borland now everytime i try and open this damn project it says "project's target could not be found in the HLc.cpp. The projects target is commonly WinMain or DllEntryPoint".

and i havent changed anythign! this is annoying

ahh got it working.. borland doesnt even know how to save its own files properly hehe (or if you want it to work, u shouldnt save files inthe most natural way grr)

Wraith,
19-04-02, 10:00pm
Regex Guru? Not really but i do a lot of text parsing/manipulation and it's about the easiest method available, i know of no other way to exactly specify a range of patterns and select/replace text within them. It's very powerful stuff. The Am manual has some reference but i use the VBS docs because it's more pertiant to the objects i use. Any reasonable reference will do, practice is the key, it's bewildering stuff you have to use it to begin to understand it.

Is a rewrite a problem? i generally start a project and get enough code together to outline the problems/pitfalls. Then i destroy the original and begin a clean project that will work, you can never see all the problems unles you encounter them, write that one off as a prototype and start again, it's much more satisfying when you finish and you get much neater code.

!2SX!
19-04-02, 10:16pm
wish i had the time :)

these forums are loading differently now.. like the order in which things appear on the background.. also did u notice how even tho ur thread with the regex code made this page horizontally scrollable, it was only for your post, all the others keep within the window? thats awesome! no need to worry about wide posts

Wraith,
19-04-02, 10:47pm
CFGNBandit has been doing some spring cleaning. He removed the quickilinks dropdown (which i if you've ever looked at the page html you'll know was huuuuge) he's made the pages per-post tabled. The URLis now ozforums not ozforces (had to change my firewall and mail filters for that). The pages are laoding really fast which is good, no more waiting 30 seconds for each page.

SR71Goku
19-04-02, 11:23pm
WTH? I was unable to post for about an hour. It said I wasn't allowed to by the moderator. :confused:

!2SX!
20-04-02, 12:18am
yeah maybe now i can load ozforces (ozforums) from the unix terms at uni.. we'll just have to wait and see.

back down to a pleb with the rest of us huh goku? there there :)

gnugy
20-04-02, 12:47am
I personally liked that forum jump better than what it is now, but then again I also dont notice a huge difference in the speed these pages load.

Contempt
20-04-02, 12:50am
http://www.ozforces.com/showthread.php?threadid=26778

We're still going on strong over here guys. Feel free to drop in :D

Wraith,
20-04-02, 12:58am
While you of course can feel free to drop dead bovine.

Gnugy, try living a couple of continents away and using dial-up, then tell me it's not faster.

gnugy
20-04-02, 01:22am
Why would I do that when I can stay right here and enjoy my cable?

I would just like it better if you had the option of turning it on or off.

!2SX!
20-04-02, 01:27am
i think its faster and im on cable _and_ in australia (although i dunno if these are hosted in oz..)

check out my latest enhancements (not much but hey).

http://wolves.sgl.org.au/logchat/L0416037.html

* dead players have diff colour
* Admin say (admin_say) is now included in green

man this is gonna become the most popular program ever written!

!2SX!
20-04-02, 02:28am
hmm this next page thing is troublesome.. depending on what order the user chooses the files in the dialog box means they are entered in a different order in the array.. which means ill have to sort it somehow maybe.. dagnamit programming is never simple.

SR71Goku
20-04-02, 02:43am
I say again...I can't wait til my class in C++ next year! w00t!

!2SX!
20-04-02, 02:49am
will it be windows api windows gui programming? or normal command line programming?

im doing the commandline stuff at uni atm, i just grabbed borland C++ off a friend and did some stuff for windows (had to watch him write a program in it first b4 i could do it myself, commandline and borland are only very basically related, mainly in that c++ syntax follows through heh) cos i felt like it (and the results are a lot more pleasing.. u can actually do ****e!).

if you remember when hullu's winHL booster program first came out, i wrote a program for that to help u figure out what scale value you would need.. my first practical program :D

Wraith,
20-04-02, 02:51am
2SX, the colours are a bit odd, it's difficult to read. how abotu making the CT and name portions the red/blue colour and always having the spoken text in black so you can read through. Also how about puttign it all in a tabled structure. Then you can go through and parse the user info and construct on cell then parse the message to create the next cell, close the row and begin another for the next message. It has the disadvantage of forcing long lines to wrap the entire page but since you can only put 120 characters into a message it's not too problematic.

Sorting!!! No it's awful, you're getting into sort types timings and all sorts of stuf expressed in n p and O here, Don't do it!!!!

Programming is simple, programming complex behaviors so they appear consitant to illogical end users and work every tie is another thing alltogether though. You really want to be doing this in perl, but no-one in their right mind likes perl so never mind.

Contempt
20-04-02, 02:58am
Originally posted by Wraith,
While you of course can feel free to drop dead bovine.

**** you, you power mad pathetic little n00b. I was making an open invitation to people I thought would like to continue conversing with other in a fun manner.... just like they were before a certain power abusing asshole decided to delete their thread!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wraith,
20-04-02, 03:12am
<b>****</b> Ohhh! big man, you can use swear words
<b>deleted</b> Nay, locked.
<b>power mad</b> no.
<b>pathetic</b> possibly
<b>little n00b</b> dead wrong

I deleted your first two replies because it was malicious gloating, you're doing it again and as i'm free to do i spoke my mind. whis whol "who's got the longest thread" thing is childish in the extreme. I'm all for discussing in a fun manner, pointless spamming on the other hand i'm not a fan of and have said so on numerous occasions.

!2SX!
20-04-02, 04:09am
difficult to read? hmm anyone else have this prob? i find it easy in the extreme (even when i turn up my gamma, cos i know my gamma is lower than most ppls).. maybe a darker background would help?
i just like the idea of being able to use the colours to figure out what team they're on and if they're dead or not without actually having to read it.. i dunno if it would still be easy if you only had their name coloured.. ill give it a go and see.

yeah tabling was my next idea, shouldnt be hard the way ive set it up.

hehe sorting isnt that bad, ill jsut convert the file names into numbers somehow (maybe julian method) and wack em into a list and sort em.. yeah so waht if its log(n) i can live with that :D there's not gonna be that many files that it would make a diff.


programming is simplewell.. maybe to u :D but the stuff they're making us do is hard to get ur head around to say the least. last weeks' tute had 5 questions in it, our tutor was willing to give any of us $50 if we could get only one of them done.. it was crazy.

Contempt
20-04-02, 04:28am
Originally posted by Wraith,
<b>****</b> Ohhh! big man, you can use swear words
<b>deleted</b> Nay, locked.
<b>power mad</b> no.
<b>pathetic</b> possibly
<b>little n00b</b> dead wrong

I deleted your first two replies because it was malicious gloating, you're doing it again and as i'm free to do i spoke my mind. whis whol "who's got the longest thread" thing is childish in the extreme. I'm all for discussing in a fun manner, pointless spamming on the other hand i'm not a fan of and have said so on numerous occasions.

As I said you Pathetic little n00b. I was making an open offer to come over and spend time in our thread. This is not gloating it is offering an olive branch of sorts.

P.S yeah go ahead delete in n00b i'll just repost it.

Wraith,
20-04-02, 04:32am
I'll see if i can get the page looking good to me and then let you see it if you like. I'm always up for a challenge. Tabling isn't a problem it's fairly easy to write as you go. making the background darker is a bad idea, stick with plain old black and white for the readable text, the colours are just indicators for the player teams

I don't do sorting, ever. It's just not somethign VB is designed to be good for and i'm not spending my time arsing about with sorting when there are more interesting things to be done. i'll leave that until i actually have a reason to learn C. The same with hash tables.


If you're going to offer olive branches it's best not to beat people around the head with them and not to use a tone of contempt. Do as you will but continue to pointlessly attack me and i'll remove it. Consider the argument ended.

Jarnuts
20-04-02, 05:39am
//ocassionally glances down and looks at THIS POLL..
//hopes one day it will open, as we are doing the exact same
//thing here..


Considering the points that were brought to the table...

I dont feel it should have been locked.
As like i said...we are just doign the same here...

I use Vbulletin. I do know for a fact that the database is UNLIMITED.

no matter how many posts go into the databse...Ropey and Alfred will never have to worry about their database being "full"

It dont cost them anymore money...
and even if that was the case...

then what are THESE posts gonna do???

maybe take up the same space???

Infact...it takes up more space..

ita's a NEW thread PLUS more posts rather than
just new posts.

gnugy
20-04-02, 06:29am
Man I just found the sweetest shop to get boarding equipment. It's basically a barn in some guys backyard with all the inventory from a store that went out of business, you can buy everything at cost. So basically 50% off what you'd pay in a normal store.

As a bonus me and a buddy went up there today to get some stuff for the summer, and when we got there the dudes said: "Come on in, were just going to smoke this dube then we'll go look at the ****." So not only did I get a pair of 80$ shorts for 35$ but I got some free weed. It was a huge score.

SR71Goku
20-04-02, 08:20am
If I recall correctly, the only people that would start fights were m00 and Wraith. Maybe THEY should stop posting since they such a tendency to bicker. I think we all need a little more tolerance with eachother.

d0dger1
20-04-02, 09:27am
"Can't we all just get along?"

Wraith, I have a library of nifty array sorting routines in VB if you'd like them... It has all the standard sorting methods.

And I'll pose a question to our esteemed panel...

Who thinks using buy scripts in CS is cheating? Now I'm not talking about scripts that allow you to buy banned weapons, etc... I'm talking about a plain macro that pulls up menus, and selects options, just like doing it manually, except much faster (and not susceptible to lag).

If you do think they are cheats, then what about binding keys to access weapon menus directly, reducing it from 3-4 keystrokes to 1 or 2...

The debate came up on jar's server this afternoon, and I thought I'd get some other opinions on it.


ACK!!! WTH HAPPENED TO MY POST COUNT?!?

Wraith,
20-04-02, 10:14am
I don't use any scripts and i normally get away from teh spawn points faster than most, i use the old style menu's though which makes it more responsive i feel. Scripts aren't cheating unless you're using them in gameplay, if a script gives you a noticible advantage for the round then it's cheating, if it just buys your weapons so you don't have to then it's OK with me.

Ack! what did happen to you postcount? Gherkin? care to restore him if possible?

I dont need sorting routines, i've no use for them in general, it's just a complex subject i've avoided so far, i'll have to write my own eventually but it's the theory behind them that counts.

SR71Goku
20-04-02, 11:16am
I don't think buying scripts are at all cheating. They can be an advantage, but it can also make things a little fairer. For example, lets say that there is no buy time. It's a somewhat laggy server and your team jsut lost the last round. Now instead of wasting time to wait seconds before teh menu shows, you have a fair advantage over hte enemy who is not able to use that time to gain too much of a strong hold against your team. BTW, have you guys heard of the secret walk trick? You rebind your walk key to a different command and it lets you walk at about twice the speed. It's great when you need to rush, but need to do it stealthly. If you guys know the command, please don't post it hear, but if you want to hear it, I will PM you.

d0dger1
20-04-02, 11:45am
I've figured out what's up...

There's 2 d0dger's.. A d0dger and a D0dger

D0dger has the post count, etc, but it seems vBB converts usernames to lowercase before authenticating them... :p

I need the lowercase account nuked, and then I will have my things back.

Thanks

gnugy
20-04-02, 12:48pm
I don't consider buy scripts a cheat. If they were cheating Valve wouldn't have built those functions into the scripting engine. And in most leagues, where it would really matter, there are buy times, so what Goku talked about wouldn't apply.

This said I don't use them, I just have nothing against those that do.

Now, as for walking at twice the speed, that is cheating. I use sound just as much as sight when I play and if I couldn't hear someone but they could come up behind me, silently, faster than I could walk that would definetly be an unfair advantage.

Ok, the only sorting I know is Shell Sort and Bubble Sort and I don't really remember how each one works, I just have code (VB) for them somewhere. Are there faster, more effective techniques?

I still would like to see how it's done though Goku, maybe think of a way to prevent it

!2SX!
20-04-02, 04:08pm
wraith,: cool, no rush :)

dodger: definitely not a cheat, i dont use them myself, but like wraith i can usually buy:

primary gun
prim ammo
pistol
pistol ammo
3 grens
and armour

b4 other ppl have even bought their prim ammo.. probably comes from playing the piano when i was younger hehe

goku: it goes like this:

bind shift +WalkRealFast!!!!

+speed slows u down by 30% (this is the normal walking and is totally silent)

+WalkRealFast!!!! slows u down by only 8%, but it does sometimes give off noise, like if you strafe and press forward at the same time it will sometimes give off a footstep.. so u gotta be careful. (+WalkRealFast!!!! is the command for Walking Real Fast!!!! i believe).

i dont think there's anyway to stop ppl doing this.. most pro clans use it

removed this "secret" by request, but i dont think its a secret at all to tell the truth.

SR71Goku
20-04-02, 05:03pm
not quite it, but close. But like I said DONT POST IT HERE!!!

!2SX!
20-04-02, 05:07pm
oh i see i thought u wanted to know what it was, yeah pls pm me with it

Jarnuts
20-04-02, 05:37pm
Well...I'll thread about the buy scripts..
and i'll do it like this....


d0dger and I have a certain weapon banned in the server..
while it IS being banned this guy spops in and uses a buy script to break the ban and buy the weapon..

(it happened when it was pistols only...he bought a colt)

i fell that IS cheating cause he:
1. Broke the current rules and bought a colt when it was pistols only

2. NOW had an unfair advantage over eeryone else on the server.

as far as i'm concerned...that is cheating anyway you cut it.

coud anyone else buy the colt??? NO!..
after using his script...could he??? YES
is it unfair?? yes?

was i right in abnning this person after repeated warnings and a large debate over it???

!2SX!
21-04-02, 01:45am
hehe to keep it interesting, i usually only play with a deagle, and do ok against a lot of ppl, so if everyone had pistols and only one guy had a colt, that would be a lot easier for me heheh

have u seen Xpert's sig now?

No More Ninja. :D hahe cute, at least he took it well

btw jarnuts i think you were totally right in banning him.
ur server.
ur rules.
and dicks like that dont deserve a place in it.

gnugy
21-04-02, 02:07am
Going to the Cottage!
Going to the Cottage!
Going to the Cottage!
CHA CHA CHA!

Water......................Check
Ax............................Check
Boating Supplies.....Check
Barbeque Tank........Check
Food........................Check
24 of Ricards............Oh yeah, That's a big Check.

Later guys, I won't be back until Tommory night.

Wraith,
21-04-02, 02:09am
Remember the loo roll. You'll regret it if you don't and never ever wipe your arse with nettles, they migth make good tea but not much else.

SR71Goku
21-04-02, 02:10am
!2SX!, could you please dit your post so that the command isn't there any more.

!2SX!
21-04-02, 02:10am
hahha

and dont forget spoons, i once had to eat cereal with a leaf cos i forgot my spoon. (true story, it wasnt taht bad either).

!2SX!
21-04-02, 02:11am
goku, its widely available... its no secret by a long shot

eheh so im assuming its the one ur talking about?

SR71Goku
21-04-02, 02:13am
check your PM. And it is a secret. very few people know about it.

SR71Goku
21-04-02, 02:14am
Oh, and using buy scripts to overide buy restrictions is cheating.

!2SX!
21-04-02, 02:28am
i will not to cause a fight, but personally i dont think its secret at all.
as i said, lots of pro clans use it

SR71Goku
21-04-02, 02:34am
I know most of the pro clans use it, but most people don't know about it. if you were to go into a random server and ask if people if tehy knew about it, most, if not all, will say no.

!2SX!
21-04-02, 03:13am
if you say so..

i think its more like bunny hopping, when it was first done ppl were all like wtf?! what the hell is he doing? how!?

and they did that with the fast walk thing (i remember whne i saw my first fast walker guy), but now no one says anything..

Dork
21-04-02, 01:34pm
Hey Jarnuts, I tried to reply to your PM, but your inbox seems to be full. It looks like you got your sig the way you wanted it though. Sorry, I didn't get to you sooner, but I have been extremely busy the last 2 weeks. BTW, my HTML is horrible too. I had to look at the source for M00's sig to figure out how to set my sig up the right way:D

Slow Gherkin
21-04-02, 03:15pm
hey Goku is that the um thing you told me about? PM with the exact code again I forgot what it is /edit/ or somthing?

Jarnuts
21-04-02, 11:48pm
Yeah...my inbox was kinda full :D sorry :D

no its NOT quite the way I want it...
Hectors isnt COLORFUL enough....

ah well and i didnt want them so close together...but i do
want them to expand to screen width depending on the
screen size or resolution choice of the user.

i would liek to know about ht e WalkRealFast!!!

i never knew about it...sorry 2SX...

:D

!2SX!
22-04-02, 01:11am
hehe i am under oath not to tell anyone!!!

even tho i use it myself hehe

*hint* i expect gherkin will have to sensor his post soon :D

SR71Goku
22-04-02, 02:10am
Gherkin, I PMed you already. If you don't know and you still want to, PM me and I will tell you.

Slow Gherkin
22-04-02, 02:29am
ok edited it.

Slow Gherkin
22-04-02, 02:33am
Does anybody know if a Lobster can go fast on land? How long do you think it can be alive out of water?

real question, thinking of a cool prank :)

SR71Goku
22-04-02, 02:57am
well, it like fish, has gills, so it has to hold its breath. and I dont think its legs are strong enough to hold its own weight on land. A crab, on the other hand, would probably work well for you.

Wraith,
22-04-02, 03:19am
Why would it's legs not be strong enough? it has a hard chitinous exoskeleton doesn't it? In which case they can take somre pretty punishing pressures, as long as the muscles are strong enough to support it's body weight ( it's not a compelled to swim or use bouyancy to be mobile) then it shoudl be able to move around. A much ebtter reason not to take them far out of water is the oxygen exchange, crabs can breate both air and water (the dead mans fingers are the gills IIRC) but they have to back cycle and do all sorts of odd things to manage it, in which case i'd doubt the bigger and generally much more aquatic lobsters can breath well if at all) But hey their vision is funky, those movable bands and stuff are fascinating.

I'm with Goku, try a crab i assume he meant crab not crap as he wrote:)) Sounds like an unpleasant prank there gherkin.

SR71Goku
22-04-02, 03:22am
lol, I meant crab...

gnugy
22-04-02, 07:03am
Originally posted by Wraith,
Remember the loo roll. You'll regret it if you don't and never ever wipe your arse with nettles, they migth make good tea but not much else.

Originally posted by !2SX!,
hahha

and dont forget spoons, i once had to eat cereal with a leaf cos i forgot my spoon. (true story, it wasnt taht bad either).

Well Im back and you guys had need not worry. All that stuff was already out there. We aren't exactly roughing it at my cottage, we do have plumbing with a toilet inside and a healthy stock of toilet paper to go with it. We also have a eating utensils that we just leave down there.

But the stuff that wasn't there was Paper Towel, would have been useful when my friend decided to chase 6 beer with alot of rum and ended up throwing up. There also weren't any garbage bags which would have been nice. We also had to use the dish soap I use to get in and out of my wakeboard bindings to bathe. Other than that it was sweet.

Jarnuts
23-04-02, 12:15am
can't believe you are gonna leave me in the dark...

:rolleyes:

gnugy
23-04-02, 04:58am
Originally posted by Jarnuts
can't believe you are gonna leave me in the dark...

:rolleyes:

Who you talkin to?

Jarnuts
24-04-02, 02:07am
goku and 2SX

Wraith,
24-04-02, 02:11am
Everyone happy if i move this to the OT forum now?

Jarnuts
24-04-02, 03:13am
fine with me

Dork
24-04-02, 08:12am
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<table style=filter:GLOW(color="#7D037D", strength=+9)><P ALIGN="center"><font color="#FFFF00">^The Admin Mod Bible^</FONT></P></TABLE></TD>
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<table style=filter:GLOW(color="red", strength=+9)><P ALIGN="center"><font color="#FFFFFF">^My Little Princess^</FONT></P></TABLE></TD></TR></TABLE>It's fairly simple to make the spaces in between the pics larger. You see, before every pic I have TD WIDTH=300. That is what creates a bigger space in between the pics...

You can pretty much copy and paste mine and just make the necessary changes. Unfortunately when you use black text with the highlighting, it doesn't look very nice:(




Sorry I made it horizontally scrollable guys, but once Jarnuts gets the info I will take out the PHP.

Oh and Jarnuts I butchered the PHP stuff and added tons of carriage returns and spaces to make it less scrollable, you can just delete that stuff.

As for Wraith, if you want to move the thread, that's fine with me

SR71Goku
24-04-02, 08:30am
Originally posted by Wraith,
Everyone happy if i move this to the OT forum now?

:confused:

Wraith,
24-04-02, 08:34am
Goku it's OT, it belongs in the OT forum, that's what alfred created it for afterall.

SR71Goku
24-04-02, 08:40am
can you just move the whole thread over there?

Wraith,
24-04-02, 09:09am
Yesss, that's what i'm going to do.

Jarnuts
24-04-02, 11:56am
DUH!!!!!

SR71Goku
25-04-02, 04:28am
I was confused, before, by what he meant by "OT Forum," since it was called "non-AdminMod Forum." But I get it now. :D OT = Off Topic.

gnugy
25-04-02, 05:05am
I thought OT meant overtime???????

:confused:

Wraith,
25-04-02, 06:55am
YOu may all like to copy paste this for future use.

&nbsp;
<p align=center>
<font size=6 >
<a href="http://www.ozforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31584" style="text-decoration: none; border-bottom: none;">See this thread</a>
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</p>

SR71Goku
25-04-02, 09:01am
<p align=center>
<font size=6 >
<a href="http://www.ozforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31584" style="text-decoration: none; border-bottom: none;">See this thread</a>
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</p>

Wraith,
25-04-02, 09:17am
Exactly, though the general form can be used as a tempalte, put a manual linkin there and change the text to read RTFM and you've another classic message.

SR71Goku
25-04-02, 10:12am
OMG, I just downloaded and played new CS 1.4 and it sucks! Yeah, the spectator stuff is cool, but the inability to jump around is just aweful! Also, your computer is forced to play the "weapon select" animation before you can fire your weapon. Example, you must watch your Deagle spin before you can shoot. Who the hell would ever spin a Deagle??? Can you even spin one?? Well, I give it a rating of "S" for "PIECE OF SHlT"

Dork
25-04-02, 12:11pm
Sorry to hear that Goku, I haven't DL'd it yet...

JARNUTS, did you get the info you needed? I posted it earlier.

SR71Goku
25-04-02, 03:01pm
It was a sad, sad thing... :'(

Dork
25-04-02, 03:03pm
Yeah, well I can't even try out CS1.4, the damned thing doesn't work on my computer...:(

SR71Goku
25-04-02, 11:19pm
what's wrong with it?

Wraith,
25-04-02, 11:21pm
he only real change is the jumping so far and quite frankly if it's that much of a problem then you deserve to be named a jump monkey.

gnugy
25-04-02, 11:59pm
I personally like the jump thing. There are people on the server I play on that used to jump around like a man with thier nuts on fire and I couldn't hit them for the life of me. Now not only can I hit them while they're jumping but they can't hit me because they're spray is so wide, I love it.

Gherkin, you should adopt a habit of when you see an enemy maybe do one jump then crouch. Jumping around corners also works fairly well still. And I haven't experimented very much with this but slow down only seems to effect forward movement. So if you strafe and jump repeatedly you won't get effected.

gnugy
26-04-02, 12:00am
Oh, and the fast walk secret that Goku took such effort to keep off these forums doesn't seem to work anymore. I just find that funny.

SR71Goku
26-04-02, 01:53am
yeah, they fixed a lot of bugs, including the being T with a CT skin. That one was funny. It didn't work well, but it was halarious. I hate this new jumping thing, though. Try jumping up onto a few boxes, its a pain in the ass. There should be a variable to turn that on or off. Also, the gun animation thing sucks.

Wraith,
26-04-02, 02:04am
I hate the AWP and they won't add a cvar to turn that on and off, i don't see why you shoudl get a cvar for the jumps. Plus if you jump off something and hurt yourself on landing you don't slow down, try it. The hossie AI seems better ( less to no flickering and they don't get stuck) and the weapons seem slightly less random in their accuracy. Having said that i've no server to play online on yet soi 'll have to see how it squares up to humans at some point.

gnugy
26-04-02, 05:12am
I love the better accuracy when crouched. I just tape my control button down and walk around that way.

SR71Goku
26-04-02, 05:18am
I don't mind the AWP too much. It only gets annoying when a team uses it to camp when they are supposed to complete an objective. Example, Terrorist campers on de_dust.

Wraith,
26-04-02, 05:22am
I never play T, it's the team for losers who campe and has ben for as long as i've played the game. I always play CT, as such AWP campers are a regular annoyance for me when i play. Whats this abotu third person view BTW? anyone know how to set that up? that's really sweet because i love a giants like viewpoint like in SI, much easier to see what goes on aroud you.

SR71Goku
26-04-02, 05:25am
I've done it before, but the only thing is, it's a bitch to aim. Almost impossible, in fact. Don't bother.

Slow Gherkin
26-04-02, 07:31am
man crabs are expensive.

Wraith,
26-04-02, 08:16am
I've heard they itch like nothing else, but thats all hearsay.
Or didn't you mean those crabs?

SR71Goku
26-04-02, 08:50am
ROFL!!! :LOL

Jarnuts
26-04-02, 09:03am
I hope "SHE" was good Gherkin for the crabs in return :LOL

Arg...Everything is running nicely cept for my map changes...

IT's crashing now on the changes...

D0dger added some nice plugins tho... :D

gnugy
26-04-02, 11:16am
I've put my server up again too BITM and I have that same problem. Except the server doesn't really crash at a map change, it just shuts down. In the log it says:L 04/25/2002 - 18:00:42: Server shutdownand I swear to you I was nowhere near the computer when this happened. So I've still got some issues to figure out, but I have a feeling that WinXP Pro is about as good for running a server as Win98se.

Slow Gherkin
26-04-02, 11:20am
Originally posted by Wraith,
I've heard they itch like nothing else, but thats all hearsay.
Or didn't you mean those crabs?

well a little bit of itch mostly burning, and ..um no no not those crabs....

busted :D

gnugy
26-04-02, 11:51am
Well I figured out my problem. When I set up my server this time I set up the plugin.ini from a backup and I still had a plugin I was developing for someone that would shutdown the server when it was empty so that serverdoc would restart it. Man, do I feel dumb now.

Jarnuts
26-04-02, 01:29pm
i just tried to connect thru "net games" and bringing up the servers list.

I usually just hit console and then F10 (my bind to exec amdinpass.cfg) and then F11 (connect 208.62.89.157:27015)

I never see the status box..

anyways so i went thru the list..found my server and tried to connect that way...

Rather than connecting to the server right away...

IT connects for a 10 count..after connecting it says "connected to server" and counts down to about 80 and then it says "Connection to server timed out"

but my statsme consgreet comes up...so the server is running ...I just can't connect...

SR71Goku
26-04-02, 01:48pm
CS 1.4 SUCKS!!!!!!

Slow Gherkin
26-04-02, 04:38pm
CS sucks, play TFC or SI people!

SR71Goku
26-04-02, 11:20pm
what about DoD? It's pretty damn fun!

Wraith,
26-04-02, 11:25pm
How about buzzybots? that game gets seriously fast pretty quick and it takes some reasl skill, plus it's easy on the graphics so you get huge frame rates probably even in software mode.

gnugy
26-04-02, 11:27pm
Where do you get this buzzybots, sounds like I just might have to try it out.

Wraith,
26-04-02, 11:34pm
http://www.buzzybots.dk

no 1109 update though... i'm not sure if it stilll works.

!2SX!
27-04-02, 01:00am
i like 1.4
i never really used crazy jumping to my advantage in 1.3, so i find it a lot easier and quicker to adjust to 1.4.. and im getting lotsa kills :D

SR71Goku
27-04-02, 01:53am
bah!

Slow Gherkin
27-04-02, 03:10am
wow Buzzybots is really cool looking. Like an X-Box game. Ill have to try the sucka out

Dork
27-04-02, 03:20am
You know, I was never much of a jumper. In fact I hated the damn froggers (the guys who keep jumping in a battle). But, the new jumping in CS 1.4 is too drastic.

I play cs_italy alot and now it's hell to play as a CT. I used to rush the apt, but now you can't jump on the boxes to the window fast enough:(

Also, valve said they balanced out alot of the weapons that use the same type of ammo. So, what do they do with the 9mm weapons? They make them (mp5) as weak as the glock:(

Other than that, I like the changes. OH, one more thing. I had a problem with left and right handed models. For some reason I kept switching my handedness in the middle of games. So, I had to remove the left handed models:(

Wraith,
27-04-02, 03:25am
the left handed and vgui cvars now have a _ in front of them Change your config.cfg accoringly and it works perfectly.

Buzzybots can be really fast, it doens't look much but get a few people together and it's pretty competetive i find. No too many players but it's goo all the same. If you guys can set up a server we could have some matches.

Dork
27-04-02, 03:32am
I'm gonna have to stray of the subject here. Check out the jack off in this thread http://pub28.ezboard.com/famconfigfrm2.showMessage?topicID=190.topic. I swear, if I wasn't helping out D0dger there, I would so flame the hell out of him.


EDIT: Thanks for the info Wraith.

Wraith,
27-04-02, 03:43am
Hey but hte M4 now has shoot through, it never had before ( judgened by whether you can shoot the glass panes in assault from the outside.

Slow Gherkin
27-04-02, 03:51am
let me pick up a network card, and ill setup a buzzybots server.

my NIC is a piece of poo from satan..

Slow Gherkin
27-04-02, 04:03am
ok IP for the server is 24.55.103.88:27015

I dont feel like messing with adminmod right now so, just bear with it hehe.

Slow Gherkin
27-04-02, 04:47am
man I could have drank 2 gallons of vodka and that game wouldnt have made anymore sense than now:p

SR71Goku
27-04-02, 05:20am
Originally posted by Wraith,
Hey but hte M4 now has shoot through, it never had before ( judgened by whether you can shoot the glass panes in assault from the outside.

What are you talking about?

The M4 has always been able to shoot through walls! All the rilfes can!

SR71Goku
27-04-02, 05:21am
when I get home, I'm gonna download Buzzybots! :)

Slow Gherkin
27-04-02, 05:30am
Wraith kicked my ass :(

SR71Goku
27-04-02, 11:25am
So what's the object of Buzzybots? :confused:

gnugy
27-04-02, 12:17pm
Yeah, I don't know what your talking about Wraith, I always used to shoot the glass through the wall with an m4 in assault, that is until I got so damned sick of assault I deleted it from my computer and refuse to re-download it. I'll have to try and that buzzybots when I get home to, any of you guys up at 3:00 in the morning?

Wraith,
27-04-02, 08:27pm
That was you gherkin? I didn't kick anyone's ass, i was too busy tryign to remember my gl settign to get rid of the horrible looking mipmapping, it's been too long since and the bots got into the red spawn in the second map, BOooo!

I was up a 3:00 gnugy, though at local tme, possibly not your time. I coudl also never get the glass to shatter with teh M4 through the wall unless i was rigt hnext to it. And assault is one of my favorite mpas, T balanced but a classic and ive been playing it since i started playing CS.

gnugy
28-04-02, 05:32am
Well I was just in playing some Buzzybots, Wraith was in for a bit and I agree with him, if we could all get togther for a game it'd be really fun. So, lets agree on a time and do it.

SR71Goku
28-04-02, 05:35am
sounds good to me.

Wraith,
28-04-02, 05:35am
I'll see if i can get any of the team to come along as well, we were going to arrange something but we never got around to it.

Who can run the server?

SR71Goku
28-04-02, 05:37am
well,I can host 4 or 5 people on mine.

Wraith,
28-04-02, 05:41am
More than that surely? I've run four internet clients with only 64 symetric. I assume you'll have better with DSL or cable.

SR71Goku
28-04-02, 05:46am
no, I have DSL. It was merely an option.

Dork
28-04-02, 07:13am
Dammit, now I gotta go try buzzybots. That way, I can engage in some conversation...

gnugy
28-04-02, 07:14am
I'd host but then I'd have to play on the same computer that the server was run on, wouldn't work very well if server was dedicated.

On the topic of buzzybots servers, take a look at this (http://members.fortunecity.com/cheesehound/HLBuzzyBots.qrk.txt) page wraith and tell me if it would do as the list of entities Will needs or whether it's something else.

gnugy
28-04-02, 07:16am
Originally posted by Dork
Dammit, now I gotta go try buzzybots. That way, I can engage in some conversation...

You also have to try it because it's a damn fun game, a lot less serious than CS that's for sure. I think I played for an hour today and didn't once look at the scores.

Dork
28-04-02, 07:17am
I do have it, I just haven't tried it yet. Maybe I wll later, I have to go out with my GF now.

Wraith,
28-04-02, 07:23am
Looks like it's got the info it that he needs. I'll strip it out and recompile metamod, do you want to test it?

gnugy
28-04-02, 07:28am
Sure

Wraith,
28-04-02, 07:36am
Can the rogers e-mail take attatchments? the file is a bit big (actually i'll UPX it anyway), hmmm it appears to be 500 KB less than wills version anyway, suspicious. Anyway you want it as an attatchment?

gnugy
28-04-02, 07:38am
Yeah Rogers will take attachments but I've been having trouble with it lately. Send it anyway and I'll see if it works, if not I'll give you an FTP you upload it too.

gnugy
28-04-02, 07:51am
Ok got it, now I just have to refresh myself as to all the steps in a manual AM install and I'll be set.

gnugy
28-04-02, 08:10am
Ok, it doesn't seem to like it, it gets to the part where it displays the metamod info but then the HLDS console just closes. What OS are you using?

SR71Goku
28-04-02, 08:12am
BuzzyBots is weird. I can only find one server out there for it, but it has only bots in it. (no pun intented)

Slow Gherkin
28-04-02, 08:51am
I can host 12 people no problems.

Slow Gherkin
28-04-02, 08:52am
pretty much anytime is good. But is BuzzyBots really the game we should play? I thought perhaps some TFC? or SI?

Slow Gherkin
28-04-02, 08:58am
When we do decide to make it shall there be a password?

if so, im gonna need ICQ's and Emails.

Wraith,
28-04-02, 09:36am
TFC needs many people to be good, the same with SI and you really have to know the game to play SI well, to be perfectly honest you'd whup us all gherkin. Buzzybots on the other hand is straight up fighting not unlike HLDM. Gnugy, i'm using 2K i'll get onto will abotu this because it really shoudl compile under msvc if the project is supplied like this, i can't even change the resources withotu it failing to link them. I really can't see taht we need admin on the server,tha game is fast enough not to need it.

Slow Gherkin
28-04-02, 09:44am
Ok Buzzybots it is.

Who all is invited? Here is what I thought

Wraith, Goku, Jarnuts, Gnugy, Kndroc, Bud froggy, yensid, Dork, Alfred, daRope,M00,2SX,Dodger,Dio... anyone I left out?

Wraith,
28-04-02, 09:57am
With everyoen SI woudl be better, a few rounds of urban woudl be nice, i just got annoyed with teh bots in buzzybots, irritaitng the way the can get into the spawn a kill you isntantly.

Slow Gherkin
28-04-02, 10:04am
hehe ok, so SI?

Slow Gherkin
28-04-02, 10:08am
Notice!

Only if invited do the following:

1.Download Science and Industry half-life modification

http://www.planethalflife.com/si/downloads.asp

2. Leave me an ICQ or email address, so you can be notified with password.

Wraith,
28-04-02, 10:10am
wraith@adminmod.org

Whats the IP? i'm not going to get a great ping but i might as well test it out and see how i do.

Slow Gherkin
28-04-02, 10:20am
Ok let me set it up. ip will be

24.55.103.145

Some Specs on my server for curious

1.4 ghz AMD Athlon
384 RAM
3 mbps downstream
700 upstream (roughly)
Win2k

Slow Gherkin
28-04-02, 10:21am
i have it open as a priliminary test, this isnt the game just yet

btw wraith do you hvae a date you have in mind?

Wraith,
28-04-02, 10:24am
<table border="0" cellpadding=10><tr><td width=10></td><td bgcolor=black>
<pre><font color=white face=courier>
E:\>ping 24.55.103.145

Pinging 24.55.103.145 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 24.55.103.145: bytes=32 time=220ms TTL=105
Reply from 24.55.103.145: bytes=32 time=210ms TTL=105
Reply from 24.55.103.145: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=105
Reply from 24.55.103.145: bytes=32 time=211ms TTL=105

Ping statistics for 24.55.103.145:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 200ms, Maximum = 220ms, Average = 210ms
</font></pre>
</td></tr></table>

Hmm, not bad at all, generally ping in game is slightly lower. I'll pass the word on to the others.

No firm date in mind, most probably a weekend and at what i'd consider an odd time (12 ish GMT) to accomdate peopel all over the place.

Slow Gherkin
28-04-02, 10:26am
wait, are you wanting to do his game tonite?

gnugy
28-04-02, 10:47am
ahh, no, tonight isn't good for me. Plus I don't have SI yet either.

Wraith,
28-04-02, 11:02am
Not tonight, not this weekend possible then next one or the one after, we'll have to see.

Slow Gherkin
28-04-02, 11:22am
phew, ok that works out really good then.

SR71Goku
28-04-02, 04:10pm
Sounds good, just post here or ICQ/E-mail me if or when we have a date.

!2SX!
28-04-02, 07:03pm
hehe this is a sweet idea!

<img src="http://wolves.sgl.org.au/files/gherkin.jpg">

my pings better then urs wraith, :D

icq/email
2000526/omniwolf@optushome.com.au

hopefully it wont be at 4am or something for me.. but u guys sort out a time and if it works for me then it works for me, if it doesnt, it doesnt.
no biggie :)

so gherkin you have a higher upload speed than download?

3mbps is 384k/sec ...
and u say 700 up.. thats weird is it not?

Slow Gherkin
29-04-02, 04:18am
well thats what those bastards wrote on my bandwidth chart?

maybe it was 13 mbps? **me looks for sheet*

Slow Gherkin
29-04-02, 04:19am
I prob put that down wrong oh well :D

Slow Gherkin
29-04-02, 04:21am
oh yeah 2SX I had my comp off last night so thats why you got no response

SR71Goku
29-04-02, 04:23am
Gherkin, keep that server up 24/7.

Slow Gherkin
29-04-02, 04:25am
seriously?

Wraith,
29-04-02, 04:37am
Yeah stick it on marbles and give it some silent fans and it'll be fine :)

Wraith,
29-04-02, 04:45am
Hey look
<-----

I'm palendromic again with 5995, the next one will be 6006 and then none for a while, enjoy the excitment while you can folks :D

Slow Gherkin
29-04-02, 05:02am
**basques in glory

Slow Gherkin
29-04-02, 05:03am
ok I have the server set up with admin mod, rcon and all the crap done. Enjoy!

Slow Gherkin
29-04-02, 05:06am
oh hahahhahaha I found that chart *stupid look on face**

the guy very sloppily wrote 400 :rolleyes: I thought it was a 7 with the line through it (how I do mine). and its 8 mbps.... sorry, everyone I only saw that paper once 4 months ago, so sue me :D

Slow Gherkin
29-04-02, 05:08am
Wraith come in and briefcase fight me!

SR71Goku
29-04-02, 05:13am
Gherkin, are you going to give all of us admin access?

Slow Gherkin
29-04-02, 05:40am
I set up RCON for you guys, so just get on ICQ and ill tell ya password.

gnugy
29-04-02, 06:05am
do I get RCON too?

ICQ: 125074131

gnugy
29-04-02, 06:08am
Oh yeah, I've put up a quasi BuzzyBots server at 24.114.80.105. Apparently people get decent pings when Im not around but since I only have 1 computer now things may get bogged down when Im using it. If this is the case I may just quit the server while im on the computer then leave it up durring the day when Im not here.

gnugy
29-04-02, 06:13am
Damnit, it appears there is a myg0t person in my server at this very moment, were having a 'pleasant' conversation.

To ban or not to ban, that is the question.

Slow Gherkin
29-04-02, 06:25am
ban!

gnugy
29-04-02, 06:42am
Done and done. But apparently xqz works with BuzzyBots, this is not good news.

<IMG SRC="http://www.hms.kicks-ass.org/NotPage/Pictures/witnessmyg0t.GIF">

Wraith,
29-04-02, 06:50am
Gherkin: "this server is using poo" WTF? It's also a default plugin setup, you coudl tinker to make it a little more custom.

Slow Gherkin
29-04-02, 06:52am
hehehe

yeah I know, what plugins would you reccomend for SI?

Wraith,
29-04-02, 06:55am
I took out pretty much all the vote options apart frmo hlds_ld voting and disabled that from runnign automatically since it pisses me off when it turns up and i dont want it. I took out fun and did some tinkering to add changeteam facilities, i can't find my sma's or i'd let you have them.

poo? why?

Slow Gherkin
29-04-02, 06:56am
because poo is a funny ,funny word. Im not insulting our beloved Admin Mod if thats what your implying?

Slow Gherkin
29-04-02, 06:58am
ok ok I fixed it hehe

SR71Goku
29-04-02, 08:43am
why don't you just have all of us give you our WONid's and you can give us admin access?

SR71Goku
29-04-02, 08:47am
has anyone seen the militia move yet? It's actually pretty friggin cool. You can find it here: http://csnation.counter-strike.net/

SR71Goku
29-04-02, 11:38am
Ignore this post.

http://sr71goku.tripod.com/goku6.jpg

Jarnuts
29-04-02, 03:06pm
bah humbug!

Jarnuts
29-04-02, 03:12pm
I'm guessing the alt code in my sig was a BooBoo?

!2SX!
30-04-02, 01:29am
hows this for a freaky coincidence?
i just looked at my post count and it was 2771.

that means this post is 2772

im joining the club wraith :D

dont forget my icq/email posted on my above post gherkin

SR71Goku
30-04-02, 11:10pm
I'll hit mine in 50 more posts. heh, I liked it when my post count was 1337.

Wraith,
01-05-02, 12:14am
Fun isn't it :)
My next will be 6116, but there is a repetition before that at 6060
You get a repetition at 1515 goku, i need to find more to do with my time...

SR71Goku
01-05-02, 02:14am
well, I was talking about my next palendromic number. I didn't know you guys were looking at repititions, too. :)

gnugy
01-05-02, 08:21am
Big Game 7 tonight....Leafs had damn well better win.

gnugy
01-05-02, 08:23am
Hey look my next one will be 656, then after that comes the big 666. oOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO, spooky :eek: :eek: :eek:

Slow Gherkin
01-05-02, 08:37am
THE MARK OF THE BEAST :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Wraith,
01-05-02, 08:41am
I'm gettng close to the 6060 mark, where do the posts go?

Anyway i was digging about in my old Admin beta's and stuff and i found a page you'll like, this is from quite a while back when i first started coming here.

Mark of the beast? Like big teeth marks or something?...

SR71Goku
01-05-02, 09:14am
Originally posted by Wraith,
Mark of the beast? Like big teeth marks or something?...

Satan's number, you silly Brit!

Wraith,
01-05-02, 09:20am
I know, it's called humour, silly merry can. :D

Slow Gherkin
01-05-02, 04:30pm
haha merry can

:LOL

gnugy
01-05-02, 10:36pm
Gherkin, when do have your SI server up? Seems that whenever I try and connect it's not up. Oh well.

Anyway, if we are ever goign to get together for a match I can tell you that it won't happen the weekend of the 18th and 19th (three weekends from now). That is in Canada what's known as the May 24 weekend. Not, contratry to popular belief, because it always happens around the 24th of May, but because you are supposed to drink a 24 with your buddies that weekend. Ah yes, good ol' Canadian Beer Holiday. So, to enjoy this holiday Im going up to my cottage and won't be around.

<--653, three more before 656, oh Im soooooo excited.

SR71Goku
01-05-02, 11:15pm
sounds like fun, lol.

!2SX!
02-05-02, 01:28am
merry can hehe sounds like something out of the lord of the rings (which i just finished reading).

im now reading my first terry pratchet book.. its not bad considering all the hype he gets

Wraith,
02-05-02, 01:39am
Forget teh hyped pratchet, most of it is quite poor. Read the Carpet people and Good Omens, now they are funny. LOTR is depressing overlong and not really that good a book IMHO.

!2SX!
02-05-02, 02:12am
well so far this pratchet aint so bad :)
and at this rate ill finish it in a few days so its nothing to worry about.

the carpet people eh? heh ill see if i can get hold of it

yeah i agree about LOTR, everytime i metaphorically stood back and reviewed while reading, i wondered how the hell tolkien was gonna drag the story out for another 2 books.. but he did.

still i liked the movie :D

Wraith,
02-05-02, 02:50am
The carpet people, truckers and the early diskworld (with Rincewind and the librarian) were good, after that it pretty much turned into a franchise and became crap. His books are pretty short, even the long ones only take a day or so to read normally. Now if you want somehtign difficult to read try some stephen donaldson, that's hard work.

I wasn't impressed with LOTR the film, come on, Kate Blanchet as Galadriel? she's supopsed to be the most beautiful being in existance not some scary skinny bird, that was possibly the worst choice ever, well that and Alaiya(sp?) as Akasha in QOTD, i'm not even going to see the film if they can' be bothered to read the character descriptions before they make it.:(

Slow Gherkin
02-05-02, 01:51pm
LOTR is good, Hunter S Thompson's books are good

SR71Goku
02-05-02, 02:45pm
I'm lost.... :eek:

Wraith,
02-05-02, 08:44pm
Never read or seen LOTR Goku?
Hunter S Thompson? never heard of him/her, what are they like?
Queen of the damned is a good boook, but the casting choices and the way they are going to make the violence the high point in the film will completley ruin it, it'sa means to an end but they won't put that accross, that's just infuriating.

gnugy
02-05-02, 10:43pm
Well, since I can't really afford to go to the movies anymore it really doesn't matter to me. Ever since the new SilverCity moved in. At first prices for tickets were $7.00, $2.50 on cheap night. But that was only until it drove the other theatre out of business. Now we have a choice of $12.00 a movie or driving for an hour to get to the next closest one. That or you can do what I do and boycott the movies, at least until they come out on video.

Personnally I enjoyed (reading) LOTR. But you are right it may be a bit long. Not having seen the movie, but hearing a bit about it, I think it's disapointing that they left Tom Bombadil out of it, but I can understand since he really does have no significant influence on the main plot.

SR71Goku
02-05-02, 11:22pm
Originally posted by Wraith,
Never read or seen LOTR Goku?


no, I haven't. I've heard about it, but I have no interest in reading the book or seeing the movie. Have you guys read the Ender's Gamer series by Orson Scott Card? Those are some pretty bitchin books.

Wraith,
02-05-02, 11:37pm
No, i've heard they are good but i've never seen them in the library and books are expensive. Gnugy, it's about £5.10 for a film over here (10 screen cinema 5 minutes walk away :) ) which is about $7 (AM not CN) which isn't so bad. Still no good films to see though, LOTR wasn't as good as it could have been and still missed lots out. Plus the casting choices were bad "welcome to rivendell... Mr Anderson" Whoa! Kate blanchet as a beautiful woman, way off the mark and the twisting of the story just to get Arwen more airtime renered the ford scene worthless plot wise. Nice horses but pointless.

gnugy
03-05-02, 12:12am
Well, since 7 bucks american = about 13 bucks Canadian, it worse than what'd have to pay. But since you deals with pounds everyday and get paid in pounds, it's probably better for you. Anyway, I may just have to stop my boycott, for a girl, so you'd understand.

Wraith,
03-05-02, 01:01am
get paid
I only wish.

Anyway, take a lady along to the cinema, spend the evening comparing prices with her, see what she thinks :)

gnugy
03-05-02, 04:16am
Comparing prices, what are you talking about. Im taking a girl to go see SpiderMan on Friday, then we'll probably go clubing in Toronto.

Man Im pretty excited, haven't been out in a long time.

Wraith,
03-05-02, 04:25am
Well it's something of a JAHOYFT post then. Enjoy the film, it'll probably get over here in about 6 months.

SR71Goku
03-05-02, 04:50am
"Spider Man, Spider Man, radioactive Spider Man...."

gnugy
03-05-02, 06:29am
Spider Man!
Spider Man!
Catches Thieves Just Like Flies.


What's a JAHOYFT post?

Slow Gherkin
03-05-02, 06:47am
Originally posted by Wraith,
the "welcome to rivendell... Mr Anderson"

wraith!!!!! I said THE EXACT SAME THING when he came on screen!!!! I said those exact freaking words to my friend :eek: :eek:


I mean that guy can never shake that role off. his normal Brit accent would have helped, but his monotone saturated american voice left him open for my brutal assualt.

Slow Gherkin
03-05-02, 06:50am
oh, and will we be doing the game this weekend?

Wraith,
03-05-02, 08:07am
He will always be "the evil guy from the matrix", no mater what he does whenever he says anything you will expect it to become a matrix quote of some nature. He's australian isn't he? Bah! someone check the imdb.

Game? i've no idea, Ropeys not about and i'm not even sure if there's anyone but me dio alfred and Ropey on the dev list anymore, cavey migth pay, depends if he's busy. Someone arrange a time ( 8 PM to 2AM is GMT is fine by me anyone not up then?) and we'll see what number we get.

gnugy
03-05-02, 09:37am
This sunday is alright, anytime before 8 or after 9(Eastern, -5 GMT), im busy in that hour though.

SR71Goku
03-05-02, 09:46am
I'm sure I can on Sunday, just need a time.

SR71Goku
03-05-02, 02:24pm
omg! this is just sad!! Apparently Valve added their own cheats into the new CS update. Check out this link for more info.

http://www.ukterrorist.com/comments/view.php?type=n&id=1828

Slow Gherkin
03-05-02, 02:36pm
Originally posted by Wraith,
He will always be "the evil guy from the matrix", no mater what he does whenever he says anything you will expect it to become a matrix quote of some nature. He's australian isn't he? Bah! someone check the imdb.

Game? i've no idea, Ropeys not about and i'm not even sure if there's anyone but me dio alfred and Ropey on the dev list anymore, cavey migth pay, depends if he's busy. Someone arrange a time ( 8 PM to 2AM is GMT is fine by me anyone not up then?) and we'll see what number we get.


ok, this is the tricky part.

wraith you are 7 hours ahead of me , gnugy, in canada is appox an hour ahead, so he is 6 hours behind wraith, Goku/Kndroc is 2 hours behind me jarnuts/dio I think are 2 hours ahead, no idea where rope is from, Alfred/2SX are in auss, so he is like 16 hours ahead of me....... Dodger is in new mexico, same time zone as I, whom did I miss?

Dork
03-05-02, 04:00pm
Damn, exactly how long has it been since I was here last? I feel like it's been forever...

*remembers that the Kings lost game 7*

BAH! damn Ave's had to knock the Kings out. Oh well, GO San Jose!

!2SX!
03-05-02, 07:27pm
yeah i agree wraith, cate blachett didnt do it for me either.. they needed like carmen electra, that would have been sweet

yeah i heard QOTD was pretty crap

movies over here are $10.50 for student.. thats australian!! omg australian

yeah i can see for sure why they left tom out.. even without him it was like over 3 hours long (but i loved every minute of it :D)
also reading the other 2 books after the movie made me keep thinking "i wonder if this part of the book will be left out of the movie" etc etc.. only time will tell

but liv tyler is sweet... she can have some of my airtime whenever she wants

well lets post our time in this one of our posts, that way we can see what time it was posted in the others times and compare..

the time for me now is 7:25PM

yes gherkin/wraith! same with me (the mr anderson thing).. but i got past it cos elrond rocks so much..
yes hugo weaving is new zealandish originally, but now australian
also i dunno if u guys saw it, but tehre was a move many years ago called priscilla queen of the desert, in which hugo played a major drag queen, it took me a while to see him as agent smith instead of a lipstick wearing fruit hat bearing drag queen with no shame

goku, its a hoax, dont believe everything you read :)

Wraith,
03-05-02, 08:22pm
<&ltmove critic mode&gt;
Carmen Electra? would she have been able to bend over the bowl without dropping some thigns in? Also would she have been abel to memorise the comlex dialogue? I say they could have used Kate Bekinsale, she's sstunning and she can act! it's just a shame she's a bit slow really.

He was in priscilla! i think this calls for a &lt;neo&gt; Whoa! &lt;/neo&gt;> I've not seen the filem but i know vaugly what it's about/like and he's in it? Thats one to remember. Elron in the books was your typical elder elf lord, he didn't get angry, he was serene, hugh played him as close to a human as possible which i just didn't like, he shoudl have has some poise. Plus you know he's jsut going to say "Your men are already dead" when news of the party reaches him....

I've nothing against liv tyler (/me think i've got thnks to put against her given the chance) but that change of the story was important, the flight to the ford was helped by the elf lord whom the Nazgul feared, it showed they were simply enemies not all powerful and it was ruiined just to show a few more shots of liv tyler, a poor trade methingks. I'm betting there are a alot f people who now think that the Nazgul are Sauron. if you're going to tellit, tell it right.

I can't see how tom bombadil woudl have fitted it? I never did see much point to that point. I suppose it showed that there were other more elemental and capricious powers in the world than those fighting but it never did add much i thought.
&lt;/Movie critic&gt;


Bah! can't do time! someone else do the numbers please.

gnugy
03-05-02, 10:23pm
well 2sx, when you posted it said it was 3:25 AM here, but I don't know if I have the time set up right on these forums, I'll just have to post this one then edit it.

I never said Tom Bombadil was important to the plot, he's just cool.

as it turns out it's 8:24 AM here, but it says I posted this a 6:24 AM. which means my time for the forums is two hours behind my actual time, meaning that when it's 7:25PM over where 2sx is, it's not 3:25AM, but 5:25 AM meaning I am 14 hours behind 2sx. I have no idea whether this is good or bad but Im just posting as a fact.

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