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Lightfoot
15-02-02, 02:25am
*Ahem* Do you guys remember me?

I have spent the majority of my time since my dissapearance from this forum learning C\C++ and have finally developed something useful. It's a program that detects cheats on the local machine, and it's modelled after CS Guard, it uses the same cheat list.

Check it out http://compu-core.com/CheatCheckerInstall.exe

Lightfoot
15-02-02, 07:23am
Well, I decided Winace was not the installer of choice, lol. So I chose to use clickteam's Install Maker http://clickteam.com to create a new installer there is a new link to the new installer http://compu-core.com/CCInstall.exe

Wraith,
17-02-02, 11:17am
Right, tell me if i'm missing something here.
First the cheater installs the cheat, then he is supposed to download and installyour program, which will detect those cheats and tell him he's cheating.
Does this not seen slightly odd to you?

please, do explain further.

Lightfoot
18-02-02, 06:11am
Consider this, you walk into an internet cafe, sit down at a computer and join your favorite server. That server is running CS Guard and you get banned for having a wallhack. I own an Internet Cafe, and I find this tool very useful, I am currently adding network support.

Wraith,
18-02-02, 06:32am
Dont' allow people to download and isntall OGC. A fairly simple security policy and some creative folder/file permissions shoudl let you do that with ease. But i can see your point.

Lightfoot
19-02-02, 03:45am
My problem is, I don't have the software to set up file/folder level permissions or even MemberID's. I am running Win98 and see no possible way of doing this. I could easily do such things with Win2000, but do not know how under Win98.

Wraith,
19-02-02, 03:51am
Win98 is a security nightmare, you have my condolances.
Just update toe 2K or XP if you can that's sort it, i think there are ways to set these things on 98 but it requires some pretty fancy setup IIRC. tracking folder acess is entirely possible, perhapsyou could view this as a good way to get into win32 API programming, i know it can be done in VB.

Lightfoot
20-02-02, 08:56am
Well, we run alot of games in here and Win98 runs them well. I have been programming Win API, I used it to make this software. However I don't know how to access those functions, I've learned it pretty much the same way I learned to code for adminmod.

I released version 0.3 today, now with a Multi-Threaded Winsock Server and a settings file for autoconnection. I've also added systray icon for background processing. In the next revision I will have an options menu for configuring the settings file.

The new version can be downloaded from the same location.
http://compu-core.com/CCInstall.exe

Wraith,
20-02-02, 11:20am
Win98 runs them well, i wouldnt say it runs them well. If they dont' run in 2K then they have either version locked it for some reason ( use the ACT to run it ) or it's just badly programmed either to use bodged win98 funtionality or it's just poor. The only thing i regret that doe snot work on 2K is FF&, HL is much better on NT or 2K ( probably XP too ) than i ever found it on 98. Xp is supposed tobe good for gaming, perhaps that woudl elimintae the problem, good use of group policy editor will stop users installing anything you prohibit.

Lightfoot
21-02-02, 03:44am
Very true, if I had the money I would probably test out XP, I've used Win2K and didn't really like it. It's not complex enough for my kind.

Wraith,
21-02-02, 05:10am
It's not complex enough for my kind.

To quote wayne: Are you mental?

What is there that 98 can do which 2K can't do better more configurably or plain more securly? XP is made up to look pretty but think functionality not front end here. Without context i'd say your statement is wrong, but do explain if you can.

Lightfoot
22-02-02, 03:27am
Well there is no doubt in my mind that 2K is more configurable than 98, that much is certain. However Windows 2K is very bogged down, too much crap you can't get rid of. My main beef with microsoft has always been the crap software they package windows with. Windows 2K has even more than 98 did, but one bonus is the network functionality, wich should have already been in Win98. Microsoft holds stuff back so they can release 4 new versions of windows. Win2K Workstation, Win2K Advanced Server, Win ME and Windows XP, all released within a month. That's a marketing stratagy I don't agree with. They could have easily put enough installation options in one OS to have all those combined, but it's all about money for that Multi Billion dollar conglomerate. Windows ME is a techniciens nightmare, and this is what Microsoft expects us to deal with, it's bad enough they are making Toys and Console gaming machines, now they are cutting into Technical support. Each time they release an OS making it harder and harder for us to do our job.

Wraith,
22-02-02, 03:52am
I'm not sure abotu that release schedule, i'm fairly sure that 2K server was availble long before XP turned up.

98 and ME are made for individual machines, i'd never consider seriusly usingit on a network, it's not secure or stable enough, even as a client system.

2K does hav more overhead that the 98 series it's true but then atgain 95/98 are much bigger then DOS aren't they? I've got DOs on floppies, where is teh 98 floppy version? there isn't because it's so bloated. It's not really a valid argument with processing power and disk sizes being the proces they are today

2K/XP in core functionality aren't too different from NT4, which i used and loved, Admittedly it's slightly slower then 98 but it's stable, i can kill a task without risking the system stability, the filesystem is far superior and the sheer configurability is streets ahead.

All in all the continual upgrade cycle does get irritating but i've followed it from 98 through nt4 to nt 5 and i can still readily apply what i leartn with nt4 to XP i i try i think you'll find.

For games unfortunately 98 would still be the compatability choice but this is a fault with the games not with the OS itself.

Lightfoot
22-02-02, 07:33am
This is true, however considering how Linux has basically already accomplished these tasks, doesn't make them seem to inovative. Then I suppose Microsoft didn't smash OS\2 because they were looking out for the OS industry. I don't believe that microsoft has any concern for the computer industry besides their own assets. Maybe as time passes and the powers that be retire as newer rulers come to order we will see more advances in the Operating System market.

Wraith,
22-02-02, 10:49am
Who ever accused MS of innovation? their OS now works a lot like Unix stations of old ( mcuh more so that 98 ever did ) and looks more like a Mac than ever (IMHO of course) Both of which are good if you like that sort of thing, poersoanlly i prefer the windows classic look but i'm in it for functionality not fading buttons.

The fact remains that a large majority of personal work stations are windows of one version or another. The later verison of the MS OS' are in general more stable than the early versions. I would never choose a 98 core fo anythign other than pure gaming. You run an internet cafe, it's probably the best options for you ( or you wouldn't have chosen it afterall ) but with Xp being as functional as it is and the blackcomb should be better yet you really have no good reason not to upgrade if you haev a choice ( or funding as appropriate )

The security you're looking for is a core componant of *nix and NT core systems, that may slow it down slightly compared to what you're used to and it may make it slightly more bloated but it's a good thing to have as i'm sure you'll agree.

Lightfoot
23-02-02, 10:14am
No doubt, I am a network professional, there is nothing I would love more than to have great networking software. On the other hand funding is a great issue and shall not be resolved for some time.

Wraith,
23-02-02, 10:17am
Surely you can get a small site licensing agreement for XP, how may computers do you have if you don't mind me asking?

I can't think of anyone who given an alternative would use 98 on unsafe networked systems like that.

Lightfoot
24-02-02, 05:11am
We have only 8 computers :(

Lightfoot
24-02-02, 10:15am
Hey Wraith or anyone,

Do you know how to modify the Client For Microsft Networking Login screen. I need to change the text and the graphic it displays. I don't want to have to rewrite the whole damn thing. I just need to change a few things.

Thanks in advance.

Wraith,
24-02-02, 10:41am
I've no idea, look in the MSKB and MSDN for some of the related keywords and see what turns up. Or use a real OS :P